1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,639 The following programme contains strong language, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,800 and scenes which some viewers may find distressing. 3 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,679 The UK is under pressure following the sinking 4 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,799 of a Russian vessel in British waters, 5 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,600 prompting accusations that Britain is to blame. 6 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,159 Radar alert. One cruise missile picked up. 7 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,599 Give me your hand. Run! 8 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,879 Russia has attacked the UK in a wave of deadly missile strikes. 9 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,160 We are, in effect, in a state of war with Russia. 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,439 We must be absolutely sure that we're now dealing with 11 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,559 mass casualties. 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,279 The level of shock and panic is unbelievable. 13 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,520 This is a life-and-death decision that we are taking. 14 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,159 We currently have one operating air defence destroyer. 15 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,959 Just one vessel. 16 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,559 You guys can't be calling Washington every time 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,279 there's a problem in Europe. 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,959 We've received an ultimatum from the Russians. 19 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:22,719 Their terms are: NATO allies stop helping us 20 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,359 and that we all resign as a Cabinet. 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,880 This is a trap. 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,680 I want to make sure that we hit them with all of the force we can. 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,560 You have my authorisation to strike Kaliningrad and Murmansk. 24 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,639 40 seconds back. Kill ready. TAC. 25 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,799 Weapon away. 26 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,800 20 seconds. 27 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Prime Minister, the attack on Russian targets was successful. 28 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,679 In Murmansk, the submarine struck a radar station, 29 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,159 which is out of action, 30 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,519 and a comms and planning facility on the airbase 31 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,440 with some aircrew accommodation. 32 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,640 That will have killed Russian service personnel. 33 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,239 And the air attack on Kaliningrad 34 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,639 hit the headquarters of the Baltic Sea Fleet successfully, 35 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:43,159 damaged and possibly sank two ships, 36 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,160 one a frigate and one a landing ship. 37 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:48,679 We lost one aircraft. One Typhoon has not returned. 38 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,919 I think it's very highly unlikely the pilot has survived. 39 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:53,560 But we don't have that confirmed. 40 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,599 Would you consider this operation to have been successful? 41 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,519 So, in my assessment, both missions were highly successful. 42 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,679 And more than that, it will have shown the Russians 43 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,119 that we are capable of striking important military facilities 44 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,359 that they rely on. 45 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,439 And the downside is, of course, it will have really hurt. 46 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,200 Yep. Of course, they will respond. 47 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,479 Do we have any idea... 48 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,559 Prime Minister, I have an update, uh, which could be significant. 49 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,919 It appears that the top Russian leadership 50 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:27,679 have moved from Moscow to secure facilities in the Urals, 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,319 which is a fortified underground bunker they use 52 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,040 in case of nuclear escalation. 53 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,040 That may have implications, of course, for what comes next. 54 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,439 CDS, what's your reading of the situation? 55 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,999 Sir, we're absolutely clear. 56 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,879 Why would you move your senior leadership? 57 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,679 It's either a message or it is potentially preparation 58 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,920 for them resorting to the use of weapons of mass destruction. 59 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,359 Can we just, like, slow down the escalation in this discussion? 60 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,559 Surely, it's unthinkable that they would launch a nuclear weapon. 61 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,799 That is true, but I think at the very least, 62 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,119 we obviously need to take similar measures here. 63 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,799 We need to evacuate, uh, this building now... 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Go. Go. Out that way. ...and go to a secure location. 65 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,439 A dramatic escalation tonight as Britain launch 66 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,079 what they describe as proportionate strikes 67 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,320 on military targets inside Russia. 68 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,959 A move officials say is aimed at weakening Moscow's ability 69 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,439 to attack. 70 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,159 Independent journalists report heavy casualties, 71 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,799 while the RAF confirms one of its Typhoon aircraft 72 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,200 has been lost, with one pilot still unaccounted for. 73 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,919 As world leaders urge caution and call for restraint, 74 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,040 the focus turns to Moscow. 75 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,479 The main question for British commanders is, 76 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,480 what will Russia do next? 77 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:38,720 I do need to remind all of us what a terrible situation we are now in. 78 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,399 And we have to review what exactly the Russians are up to 79 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,359 with this latest move to their nuclear bunker. 80 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,479 It could be a preparation for the very, very worst from the Russians. 81 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,799 But we have to be clear that the Russians are trying 82 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,759 to mess with our minds as well. 83 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,720 What we must not do is automatically rush to judgment. 84 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,199 Look, Prime Minister, at the moment, 85 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,679 there is no evidence that they are going to escalate 86 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,239 to nuclear weapons or anything of that kind. 87 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,840 What we do know, though, is that they are going to hit us again. 88 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,720 And we need to be ready for that. 89 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,319 Prime Minister, this is a moment where we have to try again... 90 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,879 Mm-hmm. ...to see if there's any 91 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,720 diplomatic route at all for this. 92 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,639 Just one point, Prime Minister. 93 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,559 If you look at the way that this is... 94 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,479 has already escalated and the likelihood of further escalation, 95 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,239 this is the moment for the Americans to put real pressure 96 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,999 on the Russians to stop it, 97 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,439 in their own interest, not to help us. 98 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,519 I think we need to... We need to talk to the Americans. 99 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,799 For the US, why this is, um... 100 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,919 so counterproductive to their- 101 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,239 to their own interests is that all it is telling the world 102 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,639 and their foes is that credibility is shot, 103 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,239 and the very thing that they purport to care about, 104 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,199 which is not having a war that is escalating, 105 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,919 they have failed on every front. 106 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,159 Penny's right. 107 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,159 I think this is about saying to them, 108 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,639 this is a situation that is escalating to the point, 109 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,359 you can't keep out of it and... And what do we want them to do? 110 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,319 One word from the President of the United States would end this. 111 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,599 One word. 112 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,119 What we're asking... It would. 113 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,119 ...to do is this, to recognise that Russia's hit us, 114 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,839 we've hit back, but to say to Russia, enough is enough. 115 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,999 Make him the peacemaker. Make him the big man. 116 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,879 Allow him to be in control. 117 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,679 We want him to believe that this is his fight. 118 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,639 And if that means that he takes credit 119 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,040 for bringing that peace about, then so be it. 120 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,840 Let's get the Americans on the line. 121 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,239 Secretary of State, Defence Secretary, 122 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,000 thank you for your time. 123 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,439 I want to say to you sincerely, 124 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,639 we are not asking the United States of America to enter a war. 125 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,959 We are respectfully asking the United States of America 126 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,759 to help us stop a war, 127 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,399 to be the peacemaker in this situation. 128 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,359 Well, I want to remind you in our last call... 129 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,199 I told you to step down. We told you to de-escalate. 130 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,559 Uh, you took exactly the opposite road. 131 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,799 When you deep strike Russia, 132 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,479 you no longer are the attacked party. 133 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,519 You're a co-escalator. 134 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,479 And to use one of your British words, 135 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,839 I am miffed, OK? And that's to put it very politely. 136 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,799 Yeah, I got a couple of things. 137 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,200 First of all, have you people lost your minds? 138 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,599 I mean, how is a provocation supposed to help the process? 139 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,079 What happens next? 140 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,159 Do you think the Russians are just gonna stand by 141 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,039 and let Murmansk get blown to hell? 142 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,239 They have nuclear assets in that area for Christ's sake. 143 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,719 Mr Secretary, the United Kingdom has retaliated 144 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,599 in a proportionate manner. 145 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,440 The Russians are telling us a very different story. 146 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,120 The command structure is relocating east of the Urals. 147 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,279 Here's what we're- we're thinking about right now. 148 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,079 Our people are deeply concerned about spillage, 149 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,439 the danger of mistake in a situation 150 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,560 where we're talking about two nuclear-capable powers. 151 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,879 What do your studies tell you about how many casualties 152 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,200 are gonna happen then? 153 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,879 Our overwhelming priority is peace, and to step back from the brink. 154 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,839 What we want is a de-escalation, 155 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,799 but you drove it to a place where none of us wanted it to go, 156 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,760 and you've put us all in a terrible position. 157 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Let us do our work without further provocation. 158 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,760 That went well. 159 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,199 Obviously, the Americans are our greatest hope right now, 160 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,480 but so far, they've not had any success. 161 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:14,160 If America does not broker peace, what other option do we have? 162 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,439 What are we going to do? 163 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,799 And, Prime Minister, this is important, 164 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,719 in addition to the nations that we already have, 165 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,719 France and Germany have said 166 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,119 that they will stand by for military assistance. 167 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Great. 168 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,599 Getting these major European powers on board is massive. 169 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,119 We want the diplomacy to prevail, 170 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,199 but we must also be prepared 171 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,519 so that if that attack comes, we won't be on the back foot. 172 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,159 I agree we have got to maintain the pressure on Russia 173 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,239 for as long as they continue to do this, 174 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,639 driving them to end it. 175 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,279 We've got to remember this is a country that couldn't defeat Ukraine 176 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,199 in all of those years. 177 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,599 And now we've... 178 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,119 Later than we wanted, 179 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,039 but we've managed to combine and gather lots of allies. 180 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,759 Yeah. This is messaging. 181 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,279 The point of that is not just to have a bigger and bigger fight. 182 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,279 No. It's surely 183 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,239 for our allies in Europe, particularly France and Germany, 184 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,239 to say to Russia, this has got out of hand and stop. 185 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,719 Uh, Richard-There's a question we have to consider, though. 186 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,920 How is Russia going to see this? 187 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,719 A significant moment today for the British government 188 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,439 as two of Europe's most powerful militaries announce plans 189 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,240 to join the war against Russia. 190 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,639 The UK will hope its increased strength, 191 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,639 bolstered by France and Germany, will deter Russia. 192 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,679 Despite warnings that by hitting targets in the vicinity 193 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:53,120 of the Russian nuclear fleet, the UK has crossed a red line. 194 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,199 France and Germany are now backing us against Russia. 195 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,519 Listen, you might think that's a good thing. I don't. 196 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,799 I'm not gonna lie, I don't think it's a good thing at all. 197 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,960 I just think it's more problems now. It's more war. 198 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,039 So, Ange, Germany and France have joined the fight. 199 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,839 That feels like really good news right now. 200 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,359 Yeah, it does, Tom. But remember, 201 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,199 if Russia's overall goal is to break the NATO alliance, 202 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,999 they've not yet succeeded. 203 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,599 It's true, America hasn't rallied to help us yet, 204 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,679 but with major European allies and Ukraine on board, 205 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:30,639 it's surely a much bigger response 206 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,479 than what Russia would have anticipated. 207 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,439 So, what's Moscow's next move then, Ange? 208 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,079 Do you think they'll be feeling backed into a corner right now? 209 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,559 Well, you've got to get into the mindset of this Russian president. 210 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,679 For him to back down at this stage, I mean, it's unthinkable. 211 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,400 I feel we may have passed the point of no return. 212 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,479 So, I think there's a balance there, isn't there? 213 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,519 Um, about whether or not we believe that 214 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,159 being seen to be prepared 215 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,559 means that the Russians feel pressured 216 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,919 because they see us and our allies applying pressure to them. 217 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,359 Can I interject? I'm sorry, I've got an update. And I'm... 218 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,279 I'm afraid, as in previous updates, it's not good news. 219 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,639 Imagery and SIGINT, signals intelligence, 220 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,839 is indicating Russian preparations for large-scale strikes, 221 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,839 which include the movement and the arming 222 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,399 of the following weapon system. 223 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,519 Prime Minister, from satellite imagery, 224 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,639 we're seeing what's called a transporter erector launcher, 225 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:52,119 which is a missile launcher system loaded at a rail facility 226 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,440 in Krichev and moving. 227 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:03,439 The second image shows that train traveling northbound 228 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,720 through the Murmansk region. 229 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,879 The military intelligence assessment is that Russia is moving 230 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,559 at least one intermediate-range Oreshnik ballistic missile system 231 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:17,200 to the Kola Peninsula. 232 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,879 And the Kola Peninsula, shown on the map, 233 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,399 is significant because a missile placed there 234 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,920 can reach the UK. 235 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,639 The Oreshnik is the latest Russian missile system. 236 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,479 It's hypersonic, so it travels at Mach 10. 237 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,079 So the missiles that have been fired into Ukraine 238 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,959 have had several high-explosive warheads on them. 239 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,360 It's dual-capable. It can be conventional or it can be nuclear. 240 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,280 And we need to be really clear about that. It can be one of either. 241 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,479 What is the time between the launch order being issued 242 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,439 and impact of this missile? 243 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,760 22 minutes. 244 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,600 And we have nothing that can shoot this down. 245 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,879 There's incredible echoes here in this latest piece of intelligence 246 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,119 of them using exactly the same weapons, 247 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,039 exactly the same sort of targets as they did in Ukraine. 248 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,239 Mm-hmm. 249 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,759 What do you think the chances are that the Russians might 250 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,599 actually put a nuclear warhead on this missile? 251 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,800 I think it's very small, but I can't exclude it. 252 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,640 Prime Minister, we... 253 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,719 I hope Richard is right, 254 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,799 but if it does have a nuclear warhead, 255 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,040 what damage will one of these weapons do? 256 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,919 So, this is the conundrum. Yeah. 257 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,719 So Russia has tactical nuclear weapons where they are... 258 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,680 I'm gonna use this word carefully, locally devastating. 259 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,559 For the sake of argument, Hiroshima-sized nuclear destruction. 260 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,319 That was 15 kilotons. Yeah. 261 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,399 These can be bigger. Could be 15 to 50. 262 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,639 But... Hiroshima? 263 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,599 Hiroshima? Yes. So, a city is destroyed. 264 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,399 Jesus. Give us a, you know, what would- 265 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,879 What would it do to Inverness? 266 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,759 So, Inverness is the sort of size of target 267 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,440 that will be destroyed by a tactical nuclear weapon. 268 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,879 But what we're not talking about is a strategic weapon, 269 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,399 although, as you know, Russia has a lot of those, 270 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,719 where you are looking at the destruction at once 271 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,640 of Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, and others. 272 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,200 A country destroyer. 273 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,400 A tactical nuclear weapon. 274 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,239 That's like a nuclear warning shot. 275 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,479 And life in the country would go ahead pretty much 276 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,120 everywhere else unmolested. 277 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,559 Russia knows we don't have those weapons. 278 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,119 We do not have a tactical nuclear response. 279 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,479 Mm-hmm. 280 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,559 We only have strategic weapons of mass destruction. 281 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,879 So, the challenge here, in my view, 282 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:14,439 is whether if Russia were to resort to using a tactical nuclear weapon, 283 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,559 they will be assuming 284 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,199 that you would not escalate to the use of strategic weapons, 285 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,800 using a Trident missile. 286 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,519 Prime Minister, can I just inject some realism here? 287 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,079 Uh, the nuclear weapons, and, 288 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,239 you know, you can use the word tactical, 289 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,199 we're still talking about nuclear weapons, 290 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,599 have not been used since Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 291 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,359 And we have had a series of very, very serious wars 292 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:45,399 around the world where nations have been nuclear armed 293 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,440 and have failed, thankfully, to use nuclear weapons. 294 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,119 All the evidence points so far that they are not going 295 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:56,600 to use these kinds of weapons. But... 296 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,079 ...if this escalates and we start to get new intelligence through 297 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,879 that their position is shifting, 298 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,719 this Cabinet needs an extremely clear view 299 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,479 because you will have moments to decide 300 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,000 what you are going to do in response. 301 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,719 I just want to add one thing from a comms point of view. 302 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,439 We obviously don't know exactly what Russia's going to do. 303 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,840 I'm just conscious that this is escalating. People are... 304 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,839 ...are just anticipating what's coming next. 305 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,599 The question that people are now asking is raging on social media, 306 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,760 "Are we heading to the use of nuclear weapons?" 307 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:40,160 Yeah, you lot, I've never seen this in my 22 years of living. 308 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,279 As the crisis escalates, 309 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,879 reports of looting and civil disorder are widespread. 310 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,079 While volunteer groups have sprung up 311 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,079 to get supplies to the most vulnerable. 312 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,559 This is just a message to all the people that ransacked 313 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,919 the water in the supermarket. 314 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,839 Please think about the other people out there. 315 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,959 There's elderly people that need water. 316 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,680 There's families that have children that need water. 317 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,759 The ports of Dover, Harwich and Hull are in chaos 318 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,799 with thousands attempting to board ferries 319 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,199 as people scramble to leave the country. 320 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,599 I just want to take my family and just get 321 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,720 all the way into the countryside. 322 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,519 Prime Minister, I just want to dial down a little the- the- 323 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,359 the nuclear rhetoric here. 324 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:39,879 So Russia is much more likely to deliver a- 325 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,359 a conventional attack, 326 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,279 so ballistic and cruise missiles in the UK 327 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,200 in at least the same numbers that we saw before. 328 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,160 And make no mistake, this could be utterly devastating. 329 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,319 I agree with CDS's analysis, 330 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,559 but we do have a window of opportunity at this moment 331 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:06,000 to try and deter that attack and deter future aggression. 332 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,039 The correct response from us is to, I think, increase our options 333 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,119 for a conventional response. 334 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:17,679 Do we have your permission to produce that target list 335 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,159 and make ready with our allies to respond? 336 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,400 Yes. 337 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,799 I've got all your messages. 338 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,360 I haven't been able to reply, but we have... 339 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,239 What we now need to construct for the Secretary of State 340 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,999 are the targeting options of the next round 341 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,599 of military strikes with our European allies. 342 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,719 I think the nations that will be able to help us out most quickly 343 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,999 are going to be Finland with F-35s, and, I suspect, Norway. 344 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,600 In addition to Germany and France? Correct. 345 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,320 I'm gonna message him. I'm gonna message him first. 346 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,760 OK. I'll do that. 347 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,479 We can hit the Oreshnik site, because the TLAM shooter we used 348 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,719 for that initial package is still around the top. 349 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,799 And is the TLAM shooter in range? We... 350 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,120 - Yes. - Yes? - Yeah.- OK. 351 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,839 Prime Minister, if- if I may, 352 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,079 we know that train with Oreshnik launch platforms 353 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760 has arrived in the Kola Peninsula. 354 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,279 My advice to you is we send a message to them 355 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,159 by destroying it with a Tomahawk land attack missile. 356 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,799 Now, there are complications with doing this. 357 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,159 It's not NATO. 358 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,559 It'll take time to orchestrate. About 24 hours. 359 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,959 I think the Deputy Prime Minister may be worried 360 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,719 that what we're doing is escalating, 361 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,439 but I don't want to put words in your mouth. 362 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,319 No, I- I am worried. How's America going to see this? 363 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,919 - Mm-hmm. - We've asked Americato be the peacemaker. 364 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,399 Does this action basically put us back into the position 365 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,640 of the aggressor? 366 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,039 I know the Deputy Prime Minister has concerns about the messaging 367 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,919 to the US, but I do think it is in our interest 368 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,439 to put ourselves more in the driving seat of this situation. 369 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,319 What- Well, I think, if I'm right, CDS, what you're doing is asking 370 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,559 for permission to prepare for this, 371 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,319 but that this action would not take place for 24 hours. 372 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,799 So, at the very least, 373 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,759 we have a self-imposed 24-hour window for diplomacy. 374 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,000 That's exactly right. 375 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,759 One of the virtues of air power 376 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,119 is that it can be turned off at very short notice. 377 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,799 What it can't be done is constructed at very short notice. 378 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,160 You can't conjure it up like that. But I can't conjure it up. 379 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,960 And we have to hope they don't launch before then. 380 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,039 This morning, Europe is standing shoulder to shoulder 381 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,679 with the UK. Military officials have arrived 382 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,840 at a major NATO air operations centre in Germany. 383 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,239 The base is a state-of-the-art complex tasked with defending 384 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,119 Europe's airspace from air and missile attacks. 385 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:57,039 France's flagship Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier 386 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,239 has also been spotted in the North Sea, 387 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,879 its deck loaded with Rafale fighter jets. 388 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,799 Could this public show of force be designed to bring Russia back 389 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,959 to the negotiating table? 390 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,120 Or is Europe edging towards a far more dangerous confrontation? 391 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,079 So, we will continue to work with Chinese and others to try 392 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,079 and shape the environment 393 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,559 so that the Russians do not attack us... Sir, update. 394 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,200 Thank you. 395 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,039 Um, more news. 396 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,319 It's just, um, reading through this right now, Prime Minister. 397 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,839 The Russian president has now gone on television to announce 398 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,359 that Russia has raised its nuclear threat level 399 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:47,160 to full in their national alert system... 400 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,759 ...which is the highest possible level, 401 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,119 which means full nuclear military mobilisation. 402 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,719 The president of the Russian Federation has raised 403 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,359 the country's nuclear forces to the highest level possible. 404 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,719 Full nuclear readiness. 405 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,119 This means nuclear forces have been placed on maximum alert 406 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,360 and are being ready to strike. 407 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Prime Minister... this is a significant, uh, move. 408 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,839 Paranoia is never far from the surface with Russian leaders, 409 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,960 but, uh... but doing this at this stage looks really ominous. 410 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,559 They're upping the ante, but in doing so, 411 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,319 that also indicates that the climb down from this position 412 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,199 is going to be much harder. 413 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,919 But I do think that them making these moves 414 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,959 does require a reset of the work that Jim has been doing 415 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,279 in trying to get them to stand out. 416 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,759 This, for me, this is a remarkable Russian overreach 417 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,599 that gives us a genuine diplomatic opportunity 418 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,919 to re-energise an off-ramp. 419 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,799 I mean, I agree entirely. 420 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,279 But in my view, we have no evidence so far 421 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,959 that Russia is remotely interested in de-escalation. 422 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,159 All of the evidence before us right now 423 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,799 points in the opposite direction, 424 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,119 that Russia is rolling out a plan that has been long in the making, 425 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,600 and that they have an end point in sight. 426 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,319 Russia ratcheting up the nuclear threat. 427 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,119 The president publicly admitting he is considering 428 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,999 the use of nuclear weapons. 429 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,079 Fucking hell, guys, this is World War 3 seemingly on the cards 430 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,799 in the very near future. 431 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,399 I'm not ready for this. I can't be dealing with this right now. 432 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,719 No, no, no, I can't do this. 433 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,159 The public appears to be losing faith that the Russia crisis 434 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,879 can be solved diplomatically. 435 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,479 Look at this. 436 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,439 Many Britons are preparing for the previously unthinkable, 437 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,920 a nuclear war. 438 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,999 This is mind-blowing. 439 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,359 If you do see a bright flash, you've got eight to ten seconds 440 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,519 to lie on the ground and close your eyes. 441 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,959 Keep your mouth open and breathe through your teeth 442 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,039 because closing it can burst your lungs, 443 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,199 rupture your eardrums and cause other organs to explode. 444 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,439 Get out there now before it gets crazy, and stock up on water, 445 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,799 canned food, medical supplies. 446 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,559 We've got a pile of clothes, battery packs, phone chargers, 447 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,199 stuff like that. 448 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,040 The panic's starting to set in. 449 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,199 Guys, I'm at Finsbury Park right now, and I'm scared, bro. 450 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,199 I think this is, like, the place where everyone's kind of sheltering 451 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,359 tonight because it's probably one of the biggest stations, right? 452 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,719 But I don't even know if it's a safe place to be at. 453 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,360 Oh, my days. 454 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,160 I mean, just look at that. 455 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,679 Prime Minister, I do think it would be sensible to plan on the- 456 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,440 on the worst-case scenario. 457 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,519 I agree. 458 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,120 We need to look at the consequences of what we're contemplating. 459 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,279 Um, we've got our nuclear adviser on the line. 460 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,040 Thank you very much. Hello. 461 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,639 I've been asked to set out the context in which your decisions 462 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,840 will be applied in the instance of a nuclear blast in the UK. 463 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879 In the immediate fallout from the blast, 464 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,919 with a small payload of around 50 kilotons, 465 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,679 within a second, 466 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,799 there would be a flash intense heat and the immediate burns 467 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,680 and ignition of fires throughout the area. 468 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,679 A powerful blast wave would destroy buildings, 469 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,480 shatter windows and throw debris. 470 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:53,319 We estimate there would be between 50,000 and 100,000 fatalities 471 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,520 and between 100 and 200,000 injuries. 472 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,399 In the immediate hours after a strike, 473 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,799 we should plan for the emergency services 474 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,399 to be completely overwhelmed, 475 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,680 for water, power and communications to fail. 476 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,199 For contingency planning, 477 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,239 we should already be thinking about 478 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,679 a single clear line of communication 479 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,679 containing simple messages 480 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,400 of what people need to store for the coming days. 481 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,119 We do not have a national system of shelters. 482 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,559 People should be advised to shelter in their homes 483 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,480 or in their places of work or other public buildings. 484 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,839 In one to three days, 485 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,519 severe radiological exposure 486 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,000 will start causing acute sickness among some of the survivors. 487 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,199 The consequences would go on for weeks and months, 488 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,559 possibly years and decades, 489 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,599 with long-term health impacts, including cancer. 490 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,079 The NHS will be stretched beyond all relevant contingency planning 491 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,440 to date. 492 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,120 I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. 493 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,879 Thank you very much. Thank you. 494 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,120 Thank you. 495 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,120 If you have anxiety... 496 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,839 ...turn off the news, stop reading it, stop listening. 497 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,879 If there's anything important, you'll find out. 498 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,479 Don't worry, somebody will tell you. 499 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,319 In the meantime, don't feed your anxiety. 500 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,479 We're getting ready for it, the big buttons, as it were. 501 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,960 We'll start sending... 502 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680 ...big lumps of radioactive waste to one another, it seems. 503 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,519 And it makes my teeth itch. 504 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,479 Grown-up white men monumentally screwing things up 505 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,359 for the planet and their children. 506 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680 It just feels so wrong. So, so wrong. 507 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,439 We're applying every ounce of diplomatic pressure 508 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,079 this country can muster in every embassy, 509 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,439 in every capital city all across the world 510 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,839 to try and find a diplomatic solution. 511 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,199 Because, look, we have these weapons. 512 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,119 We never want to use them. No. 513 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,679 I think we should talk to the NATO Secretary General, 514 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,880 to see if he has any new advice on how to halt this escalation. 515 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,119 Secretary General, I just wanted briefly to update you. 516 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,399 As you know, there is evidence of Russian preparation for escalation, 517 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,399 including the deployment of ballistic missiles, 518 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,719 which could have a tactical nuclear payload. 519 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,519 What I need from you is a clear indication 520 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,320 about where you believe NATO can secure peace. 521 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,319 Prime Minister, um... These are very, very serious times. 522 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,559 First of all, I have made a statement 523 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:14,199 declaring that Russia's attempt to place the United Kingdom 524 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,119 as the aggressor is completely wrong. 525 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,959 But I will continue with my efforts to make sure 526 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,160 that there is not any further escalation. 527 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,519 If it is the case that the Russians continue to escalate, 528 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:34,319 what is an appropriate defensive military response? 529 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,639 Well, Prime Minister, there is a heavy responsibility lying on 530 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,000 your shoulders at the present moment. 531 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,639 Britain's nuclear weapons are allocated to NATO, 532 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,719 but, of course, the Trident missile system 533 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 is a sovereign United Kingdom capability. 534 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,159 So you are in the position of being able to react. 535 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,959 But the Kremlin know that as well. 536 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:05,160 If they make a decision to attack, then it's to risk Armageddon. 537 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,359 At the end of the day, uncertainty is the basis of deterrence. 538 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,840 But it's a very heavy responsibility. 539 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,159 If it all goes wrong, 540 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,159 then I don't think most of us are going to be around 541 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,319 to pick up the pieces. 542 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,999 Secretary General, that's very sombre. 543 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,119 While I do appreciate your efforts, 544 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,239 I hope that in calmer times 545 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,519 we'll be able to resume this conversation. Thank you. 546 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,760 I hope so. 547 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,160 That's pretty clear. 548 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,799 Is there anyone who doesn't think that we should begin 549 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,199 preparation for the very, very worst from the Russians? 550 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,759 I come to this table as someone with a lifelong opposition 551 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,919 to nuclear weapons. 552 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,959 But I am aware that we're in a position 553 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,600 where we can't afford to discount any potentially credible option. 554 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,519 Prime Minister, we're depending on our allies here, 555 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,279 and we're using our diplomacy. 556 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,599 And if we start even threatening 557 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,959 that we'll respond disproportionately, 558 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,239 I will respond with a strategic nuclear weapon, 559 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,399 we'll be undermining the agreements 560 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,079 that we've reached about how we should all behave. 561 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,719 The message that they want to send is that they can toy 562 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,399 with a country like the United Kingdom. 563 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,719 But Prime Minister... Wait, wait, wait, wait. 564 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,759 Parliament has vested power in us, the executive, to take action. 565 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,879 We cannot abrogate our responsibility 566 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,719 and we have to show the Russians we are prepared 567 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,120 to launch a nuclear missile. 568 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,439 The reason why I want to make that clear 569 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,079 is because they might think we're mad enough to do that. 570 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,399 They might not want to risk it. 571 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,559 No, they know we're not mad enough. That's the point. 572 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,439 Well, quite. They know we're not mad enough. 573 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,559 But they have to believe that we're mad enough. 574 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,639 Precisely. 575 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,319 They have to believe we're mad enough. 576 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,879 Even if we're not serious about using our nuclear weapons, 577 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,399 the Russians have to believe that we're serious. 578 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,679 Prime Minister, I genuinely do not think that this is the moment 579 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,319 when we need to start to think about... 580 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,599 Well, I- ...launching nuclear Trident. 581 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,199 I 100% don't want to get involved in a nuclear exchange. 582 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,999 But the main way to avoid the destruction of our planet 583 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,040 is for the Russians to believe that we will strike them. 584 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,079 I mean, it's just... it's just... 585 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,879 I just feel like we're starting to hypothesise 586 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,479 rather than having conversations on actually the situation 587 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,639 that we're in. 588 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,879 I mean, this is going to be resolved diplomatically. 589 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,720 This is not going to be resolved militarily. 590 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,239 Jim, do we have any feedback at all 591 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:51,559 from the much-vaunted back channel of which the Americans have spoken? 592 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,360 I'll go talk to the Americans, Prime Minister. 593 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,439 I really need to understand the situation. 594 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,799 What if they were to use nuclear weapons against us? 595 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,399 Where does that leave us? 596 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,759 The only scenario in which it could be lawful 597 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,999 is an extreme circumstance of self-defence 598 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,119 where the very existence of the state is at stake. 599 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,039 Right, I need to use those words then. 600 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,120 Those are the key words. OK. OK. 601 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,600 If a nuclear weapon drops, there is nothing we can do. 602 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,639 Absolute fear that's going to go through the country is absolute- 603 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,839 Well, you know, I've given permission to the regional 604 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,519 directors of the NHS to have these nightingale hospitals for 605 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,039 dealing with the extra casualties. ...from a human level 606 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,119 in terms of the public. Yeah, I know, but don't say- 607 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,759 don't say nothing can be done and nothing's going to be done- 608 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,039 No, we're just talking privately in this room. 609 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,719 We're talking as human beings. I'm talking to my team privately 610 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,239 in this room in terms of- 611 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,479 Be aware of what is being done on the ground. 612 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,199 Yeah, it's inadequate, but actually steps are being taken. 613 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,519 And we've been doing that. We've absolutely doing that. 614 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,719 But we're just talking on a human level, nothing has ever happened 615 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,400 to this country like this, and we just need to be honest about that. 616 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:22,359 There is no moderation in the Russian mindset. 617 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,800 We need a coordinated effort by the US to help the United Kingdom. 618 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,959 We've tried every diplomatic avenue to get the Russians to de-escalate. 619 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,400 But I have to tell you, as yet, we're not making any headway. 620 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,639 Do you get any sense from them 621 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,599 that they're readying for an escalation to nuclear? 622 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,199 Not explicitly. 623 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,239 POTUS has made his position crystal clear to the Russians. 624 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,959 We have no intelligence that would confirm or deny preparations 625 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,400 for a nuclear launch. I'm sorry, Jim. 626 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,480 OK, Secretary. Thank you. 627 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,000 Jesus Christ. 628 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,479 Oreshnik has been launched. Sorry? 629 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,039 Unable to detect the nature of the missile warhead. 630 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,759 Prime Minister, I can confirm from our satellites 631 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,079 that an Oreshnik missile has been launched in the Kola Peninsula. 632 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,039 Has been launched? Has been launched, 633 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,079 within range of the UK, and it's not clear 634 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,919 at the moment whether it's carrying a nuclear warhead 635 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,759 or a conventional warhead. 636 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,680 This is a life-threatening national emergency. 637 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,160 The United Kingdom is at imminent risk of attack. 638 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,760 Go indoors immediately. 639 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,200 Do not travel. Do not attempt to leave your area. 640 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,480 Do not leave your shelter to check on others. 641 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,280 Close all windows and doors. 642 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,080 Continue listening for further instructions. 643 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,160 Go in. Stay in. Stay tuned. 644 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,959 Prime Minister, we know that an Oreshnik missile is going to land 645 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,600 somewhere in the UK inside 22 minutes. 646 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,360 We cannot intercept it. 647 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,119 It flies over some of our allies. Right. 648 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,999 Can they do anything? No. 649 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,519 We do not know whether this missile has a conventional 650 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,839 set of warheads on it, 651 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,399 in which case it will feel like a normal ballistic missile attack, 652 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,679 or if it has a nuclear warhead on it. 653 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,240 Inside 22 minutes now, we will lose a British city. 654 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,559 Oh my God. 655 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,239 When do we know which city it will hit? 656 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,839 Just one second, just one second. So, there is... 657 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,319 We won't know where it's going until it's landed. 658 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,079 When it's arrived, only then will I know 659 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,519 whether it had a nuclear weapon on it or not. 660 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,040 We'll all know at that point. I cannot tell you in advance. 661 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,559 The major decision that you have to take 662 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,679 because this missile could land on us 663 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,239 is whether you believe if this is a nuclear attack, 664 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,879 whether it warrants a strategic nuclear response, 665 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,559 and you know the consequences of that for both ourselves and Russia. 666 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,079 Yeah, uh... We can't. 667 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,399 We can't. No, we can. 668 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,879 No, no, no, hold on. We can't, Prime Minister, we can't. 669 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,199 Even if we were to have a tactical nuclear weapon 670 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,839 fired at us, 671 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,479 we cannot launch a nuclear weapon in response. 672 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,039 The law on this is very clear. 673 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,759 Unless the very existence, the very survival of your state 674 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,639 is at stake, the nuclear option is not an option. 675 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,319 If a nuclear weapon was to be used, 676 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,199 Russia would be fully aware that they were committing a war crime. 677 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,039 Well, there would be many of us left around to prosecute them. 678 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,159 No, no, but... No, no, no. Well, just one second. 679 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,879 Michael, Michael, Michael, we're talking about using 680 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,279 weapons of mass destruction. 681 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,399 I'd like to hear from our legal adviser. 682 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,999 Even if we lost one million of our own citizens, 683 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,559 our families, 684 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,000 the laws in relation to using a nuclear weapon are very clear. 685 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,279 I will not sacrifice 67 million for one million, 686 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,159 and I will not sacrifice the law 687 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,439 because we become gung-ho in a bunker. 688 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,199 Prime Minister, there is a missile hurtling towards this country. 689 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,199 What we need to do is go off 690 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,519 and get prepared for the human impact of this missile. 691 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,359 If we're going to lose a city, 692 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,639 do you think that firing a Trident missile, 693 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,999 our independent strategic nuclear deterrent, 694 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,840 at Russia is the right response? 695 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,120 Prime Minister? 696 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,560 We've all had our say... 697 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,679 ...it's for you to decide. 698 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,160 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky